08/04/2015 at 1:40 pm #65198
As our events are falling this year we seem to clash with a number of popular overseas events – so it maybe good to have the scoring for the RallyMoto Cup to be counted as two out of three events.
In doing this we can make the RallyMotoGB event in the summer a split event for roadbook navigation (RallyMoto Cup) and a more technical follow the arrows day (ATRC) – this allows riders to do both and it gives us a one day event in the ATRC calendar – something which is lacking for 2015.
What do you think fellas?
08/04/2015 at 2:01 pm #65199
Are you thinking RallyMoto Cup on the Friday (prologue?) and Saturday, with the ATRC day the Sunday? Or something along those lines?08/04/2015 at 2:18 pm #65200
I’m pretty certain it’s:
Saturday – Prologue
Sunday – Navigation (for those who want to)
Monday – Follow the Arrows
It’s the bank holiday weekend innit!
August 29/30/31st RallyMotoGB (Grade 4/5) – ATRC and RallyMoto Cup
A new 3 day event, with a specific ATRC course, and roadbook course which will incorporate a round of the RallyMoto Cup plus an adventure parallel raid. A full three days packed with riding and a prologue on the Saturday to determine start orders and rankings for the following days
And two out of three is good for me as I missed the first round of the Rallymoto cup 🙂
08/04/2015 at 2:22 pm #65201
Just a thought, as you have described it, do ATRC entrants just do the prologue on Saturday and the ATRC “one day” on the Monday?
Do they just kick their heels on Saturday or will there be a parallel “follow the arrows” course?
Or are you proposing we drop the prologue and it’s two one day events?
08/04/2015 at 2:27 pm #65203
Ummm – needs thinking about 😉
The idea was to have a prologue for the rally bikes and then a roadbook day with the ATRC on SUnday – but there are flaws as it is realy the ATRC that needs the seeding from a prologue 😉
More thought or input required!
08/04/2015 at 2:36 pm #65205
I must admit that we were rather looking forward to the rallymoto with prologue and two days of navigation.
I’ve no interest in the ATRC events without navigation but appreciate that most others will like both formats.
Keep to three rounds counting but drop the having to do all three to score or the overall cup results may well be over at the second round.
Just my thoughts.
ACU British Classic Enduro Clubman Champion 201408/04/2015 at 2:41 pm #65206
Day 1 – Rally Moto Cup
Day 1 (evening) – Prologue for ATRC competitors
Day 2 – ATRC
But that fails to take advantage of the three day weekend and is an organisational headache.
Day 1 – Prologue for Rally Moto Cup
Day 2 – Rally Moto Cup (with authentic Dakar style 04.00am start)
Day 2 (afternoon) – Prologue for ATRC
Day 3 – ATRC
OK I’ll get my coat
08/04/2015 at 2:47 pm #65208
You don’t have to do all three rounds anyway, you just get 0 points for the rounds you miss. Same rule has always applied in the ATRC if you don’t do the required “minimum” number of rounds.
For instance last year the ATRC was six rounds out of eight, I only managed to enter three rounds but managed to score enough points to finish eighth overall
08/04/2015 at 2:51 pm #65209
I think things would be easier if you didn’t allow RallyMoto Cup riders to earn ATRC points on RallyMoto GB weekend (how would you work those out if they ride different courses)? Besides, the ATRC riders would have an advantage over the RallyMoto Cup riders having ridden the course the day before.
What about if on Saturday you have signing on, scrutineering & riders briefing, followed by prologue for both RallyMoto Cup and ATRC riders (all together) in the afternoon. On Sunday, RallyMoto Cup riders go navigating in RallyMoto Cup seeded order, while ATRC riders go following arrows in ATRC seeded order. On Monday, everybody goes following arrows in overall seeded order? At the end of the weekend you have two sets of results – ATRC and RallyMoto Cup.
For that to happen though, you’d need a COMPLETELY separate roadbook course for RallyMoto Cup on the Sunday. I can’t really think of an easier way to have both running at the same time off the top of my head, there’s bound to be a complication somewhere! But that seems like the simplest option to me.
What does everyone else think?
08/04/2015 at 2:58 pm #65210
have I mis-understood this sentence on the events page?
“For the RallyMoto Cup riders will need to compete in all three rounds to gain points – riders need to do all three rounds for 2015.”
I read it as not doing all three rounds means no points.
ACU British Classic Enduro Clubman Champion 201408/04/2015 at 3:00 pm #65211
Not that I’m worried about points, I just like navigating 🙂
ACU British Classic Enduro Clubman Champion 201408/04/2015 at 5:54 pm #65215
Sounds like a brilliant event either way.
I get the feeling that it’ll be a right wee beasty to organise appropriately.
Floored genius08/04/2015 at 5:57 pm #65216
It’s turning out to be a wee beasty to organise inappropriately 😉
08/04/2015 at 6:08 pm #65218
Stick to your original plan Bertie. I for one agree with snaf. I’m only interested in the nav and was looking foward to 2 whole day navigating with a prologue to decide who breaks the trail !! If you are going to run the atrc event too then in my opinion it needs to run over a different course and I don’t think that you get enough help to run both in one weekend ? Maybe I’m wrong and a bit biased but it’s the nav events that have gained a huge amount of interest this year with people investing in the gear on the promise of a three day event. There are plenty of atrc events in the calendar.08/04/2015 at 6:10 pm #65219
good to have so much feedback
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